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	<title>Comments on: how can you compare term with permanent life insurance?</title>
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		<title>By: jlf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Buy term and invest the difference&quot; is in fact the better deal for most people.  Even more so now since term rates have declined considerably.  You sound like an insurance sales person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Buy term and invest the difference&quot; is in fact the better deal for most people.  Even more so now since term rates have declined considerably.  You sound like an insurance sales person.</p>
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		<title>By: mbrcatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbrcatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same way you compare a hammer and a screwdriver.  They are both tools, but both designed for different jobs.

Sure, you can hammer a nail in the wall with your screwdriver, but . . . it&#039;s not the most effective way.  

It&#039;s impossible to effectively compare tools, without first DEFINING THE JOB.  Sure, if you&#039;re going to live in a place 30 years, buying is better.  But if you&#039;re only going to be there six months, you&#039;re NUTS to buy - renting is definately the way to go.

On your guaranteed death payout - If you have to pay in for 10 years, before you get the payout, well, if I&#039;ve paid in $72,000 (cost of insurance over 10 years at that price), I&#039;m not really BUYING a half million, am I?  It&#039;s more like $400,000.   AND, it doesn&#039;t even pay out, unless I DIE, which likely won&#039;t happen until I&#039;ve paid in another $144,000 - total paid in, HALF the payout, and only if I die?

Buy term invest the difference is still being used, because IT MAKES SENSE.  Buying life insurance as an INVESTMENT product, is like buying a pair of $800 Prada heels, to bang that nail into the wall.  It will make a lot of money for the agent, and even MORE money for the insurance company.  

And once the customer&#039;s paid in a few years, they&#039;ll realize what a dumb investment tool LIFE insurance is, and that&#039;s why 95% of universal life or whole life polices, stay in force five years or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same way you compare a hammer and a screwdriver.  They are both tools, but both designed for different jobs.</p>
<p>Sure, you can hammer a nail in the wall with your screwdriver, but . . . it&#8217;s not the most effective way.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to effectively compare tools, without first DEFINING THE JOB.  Sure, if you&#8217;re going to live in a place 30 years, buying is better.  But if you&#8217;re only going to be there six months, you&#8217;re NUTS to buy &#8211; renting is definately the way to go.</p>
<p>On your guaranteed death payout &#8211; If you have to pay in for 10 years, before you get the payout, well, if I&#8217;ve paid in $72,000 (cost of insurance over 10 years at that price), I&#8217;m not really BUYING a half million, am I?  It&#8217;s more like $400,000.   AND, it doesn&#8217;t even pay out, unless I DIE, which likely won&#8217;t happen until I&#8217;ve paid in another $144,000 &#8211; total paid in, HALF the payout, and only if I die?</p>
<p>Buy term invest the difference is still being used, because IT MAKES SENSE.  Buying life insurance as an INVESTMENT product, is like buying a pair of $800 Prada heels, to bang that nail into the wall.  It will make a lot of money for the agent, and even MORE money for the insurance company.  </p>
<p>And once the customer&#8217;s paid in a few years, they&#8217;ll realize what a dumb investment tool LIFE insurance is, and that&#8217;s why 95% of universal life or whole life polices, stay in force five years or less.</p>
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		<title>By: car253</title>
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		<dc:creator>car253</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You answered your own question.    But I don&#039;t agree with your answer.

Not all insurance agents do investments.   That requires a different license.   Investment advisors are the ones that give investment advice.    You might repost your question under &quot;personal finances&quot;.  And, most of the time the stock market bounces back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You answered your own question.    But I don&#8217;t agree with your answer.</p>
<p>Not all insurance agents do investments.   That requires a different license.   Investment advisors are the ones that give investment advice.    You might repost your question under &quot;personal finances&quot;.  And, most of the time the stock market bounces back.</p>
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		<title>By: mob442</title>
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		<dc:creator>mob442</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right on Ed!  I agree wholeheartedly with you.  Buying term and investing the difference can be a disaster!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right on Ed!  I agree wholeheartedly with you.  Buying term and investing the difference can be a disaster!!</p>
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		<title>By: lani</title>
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		<dc:creator>lani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a customer service rep.  Can&#039;t tell you how frustrating it is to deal with clients who bought term policies on that flawed concept of &quot;buy term, invest....&quot;

These agents are out of the business or refuse to return the clients phone calls when the level period has ended &amp; now the ART has started &amp; the clients cant afford the new period &amp; the conversion rates to UL or WL is as equally unaffordable.  Then on top of this, the &quot;investments&quot; are not performing as promised.

A lot of these people are no longer insurable or on fixed incomes, so they end up just losing their policies.

Another trend that I am seeing is that agents are rolling over perfectly performing UL, both standard &amp; variable into new policies, that may give the client a higher interest rate than they are currently making, but this is only for a temporary period, then the minimum guaranteed interest rate on the new policy is 2% if their lucky, where as the minimum gtd interest rate on their original policy is anywhere from 3%-5%, then on top of this most of these clients are in their 50&#039;s &amp; 60&#039;s, so the coi is much higher than their original policies.  The only person who benefits from this is the agent, not the client.  This is just another form of churning.
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The best way to use term is, as the purpose it was originally created for, young couples, or people who needed a large amount of coverage for limited period (i.e. business loans, key man policies...).  Regardless, term is meant to be a short term solution &amp; agents need to keep that in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a customer service rep.  Can&#8217;t tell you how frustrating it is to deal with clients who bought term policies on that flawed concept of &quot;buy term, invest&#8230;.&quot;</p>
<p>These agents are out of the business or refuse to return the clients phone calls when the level period has ended &amp; now the ART has started &amp; the clients cant afford the new period &amp; the conversion rates to UL or WL is as equally unaffordable.  Then on top of this, the &quot;investments&quot; are not performing as promised.</p>
<p>A lot of these people are no longer insurable or on fixed incomes, so they end up just losing their policies.</p>
<p>Another trend that I am seeing is that agents are rolling over perfectly performing UL, both standard &amp; variable into new policies, that may give the client a higher interest rate than they are currently making, but this is only for a temporary period, then the minimum guaranteed interest rate on the new policy is 2% if their lucky, where as the minimum gtd interest rate on their original policy is anywhere from 3%-5%, then on top of this most of these clients are in their 50&#8217;s &amp; 60&#8217;s, so the coi is much higher than their original policies.  The only person who benefits from this is the agent, not the client.  This is just another form of churning.<br />
.</p>
<p>The best way to use term is, as the purpose it was originally created for, young couples, or people who needed a large amount of coverage for limited period (i.e. business loans, key man policies&#8230;).  Regardless, term is meant to be a short term solution &amp; agents need to keep that in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahala Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahala Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life insurance covers lots of different things. Since I live in Oregon I&#039;m not sure about New York laws and regulations, so I recommend you call a local life insurance agent. http://www.americaschoicetoday.com/Life-Insurance.html They will be able to help you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life insurance covers lots of different things. Since I live in Oregon I&#8217;m not sure about New York laws and regulations, so I recommend you call a local life insurance agent. <a href="http://www.americaschoicetoday.com/Life-Insurance.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americaschoicetoday.com/Life-Insurance.html</a> They will be able to help you.</p>
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